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How did we fail so hard? Where did we go wrong?
You’re old
Converting a PDF to Excel repeatedly on Adobe by clearing the browsing history each time, saves you hundreds a year.
There should be a class where they force you to install arch Linux without the automated install script and force people to learn how an OS works, or even make them do a Gentoo installation. You only pass it if you get to a fully functioning PC with a web browser and desktop environment
Why stop at Arch? I had to write my own kernel in college let’s make everyone do that.
Yes, I’m posting this to point out the silliness of your idea.
Computers have been dumbed down and simplified for the masses. When I was a kid a computer did not cooperate until you raised your voice.
I can:
- Accomplish damn near anything from a command line
- Write machine code
- Remember a fairly broad swath of special character altcodes without looking them up
- Disassemble damn near any computer or other machine, and stand a good chance of putting it back together
But also:
- Use modern programming languages, including object oriented paradigms
- Actually read what is on my screen and comprehend it, including error messages
- Understand and operate any arbitrary interface without having to have it explained to me by rote
Behold my mixture of skills, and tremble.
Can you summarize this in a vertical video? I stopped reading after the third word, I’m here for memes, not to read a damned book!
“Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, Witch! I was there when it was written”
The day I started learning Regex was the day I felt like I was really learning computers. I went from 2 hour tasks to 15 minutes.
I doubt you’d even be able to reasonably explain what they are let alone how they work to the average person outside the Millennial generation.
I fear AI data processing will replace much of the Regex skill set. Why learn Regex when the computer just does it for you… 🙄
We grew up in an analog childhood, but digital adulthood.
We’ve been at the cusp of all the changes, we probably had to boot into Ms DOS and navigate to the A:// drive to play whatever was on the floppy disk with a whopping 1.44mb.
Now you download almost instantly to your phone/tablet. The internet as we knew it is mostly dead, everywhere is a walled garden of shit.
A:\
Guys I found the zoom zoom infiltrator
It’s been a while ok? 😀
Not true
Millennials think it’s them , because they learned how. Gen X knows, because they wrote it.
Adding to this. HMI’s change across time and what feels logical/intuitive/common sense to one demographic, might not to another.
Let me guess: they’re talking about Millennials, and are entirely forgetting about Gen X once again.
Gen X could write a program that’ll make a floppy drive’s loading noises play the Imperial March.
The more I think about it PDFs are our fax machine and that shit just needs to go away.
So, the key takeaway is everyone has a different experience, and that is okay.
this is less a problem of ‘people are stupid’ and more ‘educational institutions have been dismantled over the last several decades and large numbers of people are pushed through school despite being functionally illiterate, if they graduate at all’
Personally I’d blame parents more than the schools, especially in America. Parent involvement is nearing all-time lows and it seems a lot of them are expecting all learning to be done outside the home. I learned more about computers from my dad than any class or teacher.
Hey, I was never taught how to rotate a PDF.
I just looked for the button in the viewer.
Sometimes, I just rotate the screen instead.
No it’s just that Zoomers only use touchscreen, which are vastly simplified devices compared to a desktop computer
It’s not just dismantling of education. It’s the corporate creep into the education system from companies like Microsoft, Google and Apple. They want people get locked into their systems. So they start them young. Instead of learning basic os agnostic computer skills, kids at school are locked into cloud dependent apps.
The companies started it in the 1980s.
The sick sad history of computer-aided collaboration:
https://www.quora.com/Who-invented-the-modern-computer-look-and-feel/answer/Harri-K-HiltunenI think if they were using windows they’d be far more computer literate, but they’re just using iPad and chromebooks
The number of people in this thread stumped by the “rotate a PDF” comment, even what it means at all, while a smartphone has been 95-100% of their “computer” usage in their lives.
I was born in the 80’s, I did IT bachelor’s and then print design studies which used all of the Adobe suite and I genuinely don’t understand what rotating a pdf means.
My first OS was DOS.
Edit my point is I’m sure I know how to, I just don’t know what it means
As a developer and avid Linux enjoyer, I myself don’t know why the printer won’t connect.
As a cyber security engineer, it’s because it hates you. It also hates me. The printer knows nothing but rage.
Because they designed it not to. Printer manufacturers were way ahead of the curve on enshittification.
I actually thought I am part of this blessed generation that can use a computer. But rotating a PDF? That beats me.
Edit: In Okular it’s actually easy to find this function. I was never looking for this for my whole life.
PDF is a pointless file format that should not exist. Come at me.
Pointless?? Really? We should have just stuck with postscript? I’m pretty happy with pdf for almost anything as there’s a good chance it’ll render how whoever sent it to me was seeing it. What would you suggest/do different?
LibreOffice Draw should work just fine for that :)
